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Taj Mahal - was it a ancient Hindu temple

Sathu108 1 day ago
Bickering Not only for this so called Babri masjid /Janmasthan masjid in ayodya, other famous buildings like qutab minar, Taj Mahal etc There is a skepticism about shahjahan's or qutabuddin's authorship of this buildings.

The Story that Shahjahan built taj for her wife's Tomb is a fairy tale cooked by mongals / mughals for cover up.
Fact is,
1) Taj predates shahjahan by several centuries, he just acquired it from its previous owner(Rajputs)
2)Taj Mahal is originally a ancient Hindu temple palace called tejo mahalay built by Hindus for Demigod Shiva
I think
The whole world is duped about the origins of Taj, Indian history has been looted, taj history has been looted by muslim barbarian invader thieves

remember
HISTORY IS WRITTEN BY THOSE WHO HAVE WON WARS & WHO HOLD POWER

seriously, some international body has to investigate about the origins of these ancient buildings

(To know more about this controversy & for photographic evidence
just google
TAJ MAHAL WAS IT A VEDIC TEMPLE)
History is no history if it does not tells the truth

A Proud Indian 1 day ago in reply to Sathu108

you illiterate moron,,,,,,the person knappp himself said its a conspiracy theory........
do u think the 700 million strong indian hindus would have let it be a muslim thing if it was actually built by the Rajputs.....
the architects took the design from the palaces of the rajputs cause they were the ones tht were captured at that time...
dont spread the rumors mate....this is what causes problems in a country like INDIA where people like u till today believe in the idiotic cast system......
i am an indian first than anything later....
and by the way am a hindu too and not a muslim........but a proud indian first

Sathu108 15 hours ago in reply to A Proud Indian

1) Hey Mus with subnormal intelligence, why are you getting annoyed & disturbed about the other hidden story of Taj Mahal
.
2) Hey Retard, Go and read clearly line by line, Stephen knapps, P N Oak, Marvin Mills & others… findings & Truth about Taj Mahal, qutab minar etc
If you have balls refute their argumentations, till date no one has come forward & challenged & questioned or refuted their findings.
3) There is no proof that shah jahan built Taj, or Qutabuddin’s authorship of Qutab minar, all the evidence and findings found till now are against it.

4) Hindus are not aware of these truths about Taj Mahal, Qutab minar etc, as they are so much cognizant & passionate & aware about Ayodya Babri masjid, Somnath Temple etc..

5) Jawarlal nehru, a actual demon behind partition, was the one responsible for the present pitiful state of Hindus & Hinduism in India

cow slaughter ban in karnataka, Meat eating is sinful, muslims are the worst animal killers, Jesus is a vegetarian, Thou shall not kill

sathu108: hi reshma
sathu108: asl
reshmamahmud: ur asl plz
sathu108: male 25 india
reshmamahmud: I'm elder than u
sathu108: its ok
reshmamahmud: k
reshmamahmud: 32, f
reshmamahmud: where in india?
sathu108: bangalore
reshmamahmud: wht do u do>?
sathu108: are you a asian, your name sounds asian
reshmamahmud: ya, bangladeshi
sathu108: reshma is hindu, mahmud is muslim
sathu108: am i right
reshmamahmud: I'm muslim,u?
sathu108: Hindu
reshmamahmud: wht do u do>?
sathu108: I have my own company in blr, sri nandi farms
reshmamahmud: wht do u do in it?
reshmamahmud: wht kind of company?
sathu108: animal husbandy, manufactuing milk products, cropping etc
reshmamahmud: ok, sounds interesting
sathu108: are you married
reshmamahmud: no, u?
sathu108: no, i looking for a girl to get married soon
reshmamahmud: k, good
sathu108: will you marry me
sathu108: seriously i'm asking i am not joking
reshmamahmud: I'm too old for u
sathu108: its ok
sathu108: i want to marry muslim girl
reshmamahmud: why so?
sathu108: I think they are chaste and faithful
reshmamahmud: true, but wht's wrong with hindu girls?
sathu108: Hindu girls they are not as trustworthy as muslim girls
reshmamahmud: really?
sathu108: yes
sathu108: how come you havent married yet
sathu108: any prob
reshmamahmud: 2 reasons, may be 3
sathu108: reasons?
reshmamahmud: ya
reshmamahmud: 1. for my higher study
reshmamahmud: 2. Did not find anyone trustworthy
reshmamahmud: 3. I am Fat
sathu108: women are just like flower
sathu108: they become old and ugly like flower when they cross youthhood
reshmamahmud: true
sathu108: why is that you have a hindu name
reshmamahmud: because it is not my real name
reshmamahmud: I use this name because I like it
sathu108: what's ur real name
reshmamahmud: I dnt use it
sathu108: what are you doing in america
reshmamahmud: PhD study
sathu108: i dont like muslims
reshmamahmud: doesn't matter what u like and what u don't
sathu108: i am scarred of their religion and dress
reshmamahmud: we r just people like u
reshmamahmud: I'm scared of our dresses too,
sathu108: they kill animals and eat
reshmamahmud: so does hindus
reshmamahmud: and christians
sathu108: hindus no
reshmamahmud: they do
reshmamahmud: may be not the vegeterians
sathu108: the real hindu doesnt
reshmamahmud: then more than half of ur countrymen r not real hindus
sathu108: all hindu texts condmens mamsa (meat eating) it is sinful
reshmamahmud: k
sathu108: yes, they all just rubber stumps, who dont follow any injuctions, Just like christianas, jesus said “thou shall not kill” but all those so called followers of jesus have not understood this simple instruction
reshmamahmud: k
sathu108: muslims are the worst
reshmamahmud: true
reshmamahmud: well, our religeon does not stop us from killing for food
sathu108: I don’t think you mus have to kill animals to fill ur fuckin stomach
sathu108: you can take plant food where there is no any killing
reshmamahmud: its a long discussion, has scientific reasons behind it as well, but do not want to bore u with all those details
reshmamahmud: just give it a thought that where r u supposed to get so much protein from plants in the desert area?
sathu108: nonsense what scientific reasons
reshmamahmud: u do not get any trees there, let alone the trees that produce protein
sathu108: you are leaving in newyork city where plenty of plant food is available why you killing
reshmamahmud: I dnt, I eat what others already killed
reshmamahmud: just like buddists
sathu108: those who eat, those who buy, those who sell, those who kill all are equally sinners
reshmamahmud: not us. It is not forbidden for us, for hindus, yes. it is
sathu108: it is forbidden for all humans
sathu108: those who kill animas and eat will not be peaceful either in this life nor in the next
reshmamahmud: depends on how u look at it. ur point of view does not neccessarily have to match with mine and vice versa
reshmamahmud: u as a vegeterian basically is doing the same crime with trees. It has got life too
sathu108: you fool, when you taken grains and pulses there is no killing, when you pluck fruits and vegetables there is no killing, when you drink milk and honey there is no killing, in 98 percent cases there is no killing
sathu108: when you slit animals and kill, do you know how much they feel pain and cry
reshmamahmud: idiot, if u read forestry then u wd have known that the crops we eat are seeds of that tree, if u eat a fruit , it means u r destrying its chance of reproduction. It is called next to killing
reshmamahmud: trees cannot cry, tht's why u say so, but it is going through the same loss as the animals
sathu108: you fool, we dont kill and eat trees
reshmamahmud: u r doing so, just dnt admit it
sathu108: by the time you harvest crops, they are dry & dead
sathu108: when you pluck fruits and vegetables there is no killing
sathu108: when you take milk and honey, there is no killing what so ever
reshmamahmud: how the plant is supposed to reproduce if u do not let the fruit burst its seeds on the ground?
reshmamahmud: u r taking away the milk that the calf was supposed to drink
sathu108: seeds doesnt have life, after you plant seed in earth the soul comes from outside,
sathu108: there is no killing you fool
reshmamahmud: read some science,idiot, then talk
sathu108: anyway you leave that, you wont understand that
sathu108: plant doesnt feel as much pain as animals do
sathu108: pls dont kill animals
sathu108: you muslims are the worst animal killers, you are a shame to human society
reshmamahmud: so r u, lunatic
sathu108: all animal killers, meat eaters are lunatic
sathu108: god has given such100s of wonderful things to eat like pulses, grains, oilseeds, fruits, vegetables, milk, honey etc cant understand why you fuckers have to kill animals to fill their fuckin stomach
sathu108: i dont like muslim girls
sathu108: because they are unchaste, unfaithful, untrustworthy
reshmamahmud: see what u wrote before
sathu108: I wrote all meat eaters are lunatic
reshmamahmud: u also proposed me already after knowing that I'm a muslim
sathu108: I proposed you because your forefathers were hindus, become you become muslim meat eater barbarian
reshmamahmud: then u should have proposed my forefathers, not me
sathu108: I proposed you, because i want to make you like ur forefathers
sathu108: I love bengali language
reshmamahmud: thanks
sathu108: because 90 percent of bengali is sanskrit
reshmamahmud: may I give u a suggestion?
sathu108: what
sathu108: fast
reshmamahmud: try to like people the way they are. If u want to change someone to ur own neccessisty, it means u r not loving that person for what he/she is. Remember it, will help u to be happy in ur married life oneday.
sathu108: some people are in the mode of ignorance like meat eaters, we have to bring them to the mode of goodness.
sathu108: There is no bigger sin then killing animals
sathu108: even animals are sons of god
reshmamahmud: true to some extent, but cannot agree 100%
sathu108: and plants also, all life forms everybody has a right to live and survive
reshmamahmud: well, then u cannot live long
sathu108: as much as we humans have a right to live and survive
sathu108: meat eaters wont live long
reshmamahmud: true
sathu108: they die via earthquakes, tsunamis, wars etc as you sow so shall you reap
reshmamahmud: true
sathu108: than become a vegan
reshmamahmud: I tried it many times but cd not maintain it
sathu108: you just need determination and practice thats all
reshmamahmud: If I could cook vegetable better then it would have been easier for me, unfortunately I am not a good veg cook
sathu108: there are 100s of sites to see and learn, just from one item milk you can make 100s of prepartions, google - cooking with kurma & see kurma das's site
sathu108: he has 1000s of videos on his site
reshmamahmud: k
sathu108: if you become you veggie, i will marry you
reshmamahmud: what if I don't
sathu108: i will not marry you
reshmamahmud: sounds like a better option to me
sathu108: I dont like meat, its disgusting
sathu108: come on cam, i want to see you
reshmamahmud: I dnt want to show myself, neither am I interested to see u
sathu108: sorry, i have no web cam to show myself
sathu108: we meet up again, i will try to purchase webcam
reshmamahmud: do not bother. I'm not interested. Thanks anyways
sathu108: add me as ur friend
sathu108: when shall we meet again
reshmamahmud: but we r not friends
sathu108: no we are friends otherwise you wouldnt have chatted for so long
sathu108: and you accepted meat eating is sinful
sathu108: thanks for that
reshmamahmud: I accepted killing is bad, but did not accept that eating meat is sinful. It is not a sin to me
sathu108: eating meat involves killing
sathu108: you fool
sathu108: there is pain and suffering
sathu108: i think you women are unintelligent
reshmamahmud: u idiot, who the hell do u think to judge others? Live in peace and let others live in peace too. do not stoop ur ideas on others
sathu108: sorry not all women only some like reshmas
sathu108: meat eating is not recommended in islam
sathu108: islam condems meat eating
reshmamahmud: who said that to u?
reshmamahmud: do u know that Qurbani is a Farz for us, means must do thing for anyone with wealth?
sathu108: If islam recommends meat eating (mamsa) than its a cheating religion
sathu108: you cant call yourself religious or spiritual by slitting animals throat and eating it
reshmamahmud: , look who is judging? do u qualify from any angle to judge islam?
sathu108: you cant call yourself religious or spiritual by slitting animals throat and eating it
sathu108: I am a god conscious person, relgion means to know god and love him
sathu108: this is the central principle across all religions
reshmamahmud: true
sathu108: abstaining from sinful activity is another core principle
sathu108: killing is sinful
sathu108: did you got my point
reshmamahmud: I can see ur point of view
reshmamahmud: but that does not mean that I am saying mine is wrong either
sathu108: what, mine is not wrong stupid
reshmamahmud: u jerk, mind ur language, or u'll see how bad mouthed I can be. Do not tempt me to do that
sathu108: How can you justify killing, god has created life not for you rascals, to kill & destroy
reshmamahmud: idiot, God has created the whole universe to serve human in their neccessity, and contrary to what a fool like u believe, there are places where there r no plants to eat, animals are the only source of foods
reshmamahmud: tujhe pasand nehi toh tu mat kha, u cannot stop others from eating it.
sathu108: You are living in a city like new york, where you have plenty of food,
you have a choice of no killing, by taking plant foods like pulses, grains, honey, milk, fruits & vegt, why you want to kill animals
reshmamahmud: if we have both the choices, then we will take both
sathu108: you bitch, you have no both choices, you have to eat only plant food, or else you will be punished by the laws of nature
sathu108: Killing & eating animals in the name of food is against god and nature
reshmamahmud: mother fucker, curve ur tongue, or will cut it and feed to dogs.
reshmamahmud: apna ilaaj karwa, gadhe ka aulaad
sathu108: even our body is not suited for meat
sathu108: dont get angry, i dint say anything wrong, i said killing is sinful, you meat eaters go angry soon, that is ur nature
sathu108: meat is a food which is in the mode of ignorance, tamo guna
sathu108: it affects our consciousness, you are what you eat
sathu108: hey are you there
sathu108: HELLO

Hinduism, world's oldest religion, Misconceptions in Hinduism

God is One. There is no such thing called Hindu God, Muslim God, Christian God.

Bible & koran is full of false informations, anti-scientific nonsense, contradictions & some war mongering satanc hellish verses.

From the day Christianity & Islam popped up.
It's not the economics or politics But Faith & God which became the centre of all conflicts & war & terrorism unfortunately.

Both Religions were invented by arabs & romans to group people in the name of religion & god so that they can get together, fight, conquer & dominate the world.
See

http://www.historyofjihad.org

Hidden history of Jesus on youtube

Of all the vedic Literatures Bhagvadgita and Srimad bhagavatam is the essence.
Vedas are not man made like quran & bible.
its compiled by Krsna(The supreme Godhead) himself at the time of creation. If one wants to know the age of vedas than we have to find when creation happened
&
5100 years back at the end of dwapar yug. It was put into written form by Vedavyas, (Literary incarnation of Krsna)

Formely the whole world was Vedic only worshipping Krsna or Vishnu, The supreme Godhead. Here and there some Pagan or demigod worshippers like Greeks & Persians. Who were worship all sorts of Demigods like Indra, Brahma (Abraham), Durga, shiva, sun, etc who are actually living entities like us empowered by Krsna to control various universal affairs in the material world. There are some 33 different categories of demigods, Now 33 different categories have become 33 million Gods.

When Christianity & islam appeared. Christianity replaced Hinduism in Europe. Islam in Middle East & Africa.
from Afghanistan to cambodia,
southern Russia to India, are the central region of Sanatana Dharma or Hinduism.

Some common Misconceptions about Hinduism

1. Ploytheistic or Monotheistic
There are no many Gods in Hinduism. Its not polytheistic.
Krsna is the Only God.
"Krsna, who is known as Govinda is the supreme Godhead. He is the origin of all & He has no other origin & He is the prime cause of all causes. (Demigod Brahma in Brahma Samhita)

I am the souce of all Material & spiritual worlds, Everything emanates from me. There is no Truth superior to me. Everything rests upon me, as pearls are strung to a thread (Krsna in Gita 10.8 & 7.7)

2. Brahman:
Bodily effulgence emanating from KRSNA. Which is formless

3. Hindu Trinity.
Brahma : The secondary creator. He is a Demigod (Engineer of the Universe)

Vishnu : Expansion of Krsna. Who is Krsna Himself. Theres no difference between Krsna & his expansions like Balaram, Vishnu, Rama, Narashima etc

Shiva: He is not God & He is not a Demigod. He neither comes under Vishnu Tattva nor Jiva Tattva like demigods, He is inbetween

4. Buddha
He is the 9th incarnation of Vishnu or Krsna who appeared some 3500 years back not 2500 as they say. Although Hindus accept him as Incarnation. They rejected his philosophy which is all but Atheism.
His teachings are aimed at those Meat eaters who were killing innocent animals in the Temples in the name of sacrifice, Yagna etc & eating Meat.

5. Truth about Taj Mahal
Taj Mahal, Qutab Minar & other monuments around Delhi are actually of Hindu origin in its design, style & architecture. those barbarian Muslims vandalised & robbed it from Hindu kings & converted it into a Mousleum. (Google Taj Mahal was it a Hindu Temple) check out www.stephen-knapp.com

6. Aryan invasion theory:
White supremazist Nazi-christian-british nonsense, Aryan is a sanskrit word used for those people who are spiritually advanced.

7. Mahabharat & Ramayan.
Ancient world Histories.

8. caste system
Brahmana - priests or teachers
ksatriya - Administrators or politicians
Vaisyas - Farmers or Busineesman
sudras - workers or simple labourers
Sanskrit names for various professions. These are not castes.

9. Meat eating
Strictly forbidden in Hinduism, jainisim, Buddhism and is considered extremely sinful. Saint Jesus preached "thou shall not kill" unfortunately all those so called followers of Jesus have not understood this simple instruction.



Islam is an Arab invansion. Its a religion of Arab Barbarians.
so guys from pakistan, iran, afghanistan, bangaladesh, kashmir, indonesia come to ur vedic roots Your ancestors were Hindu Aryans
All ur present sufferings & prob is all because of evil barbaric cult called Islam.

checkout

www.stephen-knapp.com

www.salagram.net

UNSCIENTIFIC ATHEISTS - Professing to be wise, they became fools . . .

The scene is a classroom in a University near you, as the professor begins to propound his atheistic non-sense to those in his charge:

"LET ME EXPLAIN THE problem science has with Jesus Christ." The ageing
atheist professor of philosophy pauses before his class and then asks one of his new students to stand. "You're a Christian, aren't you, son?"

"Yes, sir."

"So you believe in God?"

"Absolutely."

"Is God good?"

"Sure! God's good."

"Is God all-powerful? Can God do anything?"

"Yes."

"Are you good or evil?"

"The Bible says I'm evil."

The professor grins knowingly. "Ahh! THE BIBLE!" He considers for a
moment. "Here's one for you. Let's say there's a sick person over here and
you can cure him. You can do it. Would you help them? "Would you try?"

"Yes sir, I would."

"So you're good...!"

"I wouldn't say that."

"Why not say that? You would help a sick and maimed person if you could...
in fact most of us would if we could... God doesn't.

[No answer.]

"He doesn't, does he? My brother was a Christian who died of cancer even
though he prayed to Jesus to heal him. How is this Jesus good? Hmmm? Can
you answer that one?"

[No answer]

The elderly man is sympathetic. "No, you can't, can you?" He takes a sip of water from a glass on his desk to give the student time to relax. In philosophy, you have to go easy with the new ones. "Let's start again, young fella."

"Is God good?"

"Er... Yes."

"Is Satan good?"

"No."

"Where does Satan come from?" The student falters.

"From... God..."

"That's right. God made Satan, didn't he?" The elderly man runs his bony
fingers through his thinning hair and turns to the smirking, student audience. "I think we're going to have a lot of fun this semester, ladies and gentlemen." He turns back to the Christian.

"Tell me, son. Is there evil in this world?"

"Yes, sir."

"Evil's everywhere, isn't it? Did God make everything?"

"Yes."

"Who created evil?

[No answer]

"Is there sickness in this world? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness and Suffering. All the terrible things - do they exist in this world? "

The student squirms on his feet. "Yes."

"Who created them? "

[No answer]

The professor suddenly shouts at his student. "WHO CREATED THEM? TELL ME, PLEASE!"

The professor closes in for the kill and climbs into the Christian's face. In a still small voice: "God created all evil, didn't He, son?"

[No answer]

The student tries to hold the steady, experienced gaze and fails.

Suddenly the lecturer breaks away to pace the front of the classroom like an ageing panther. The class is mesmerized. "Tell me," he continues, "How is it that this God is good if He created all evil throughout all time?"

The professor swishes his arms around to encompass the wickedness of the
world. "All the hatred, the brutality, all the pain, all the torture, all the death and ugliness and all the suffering created by this good God is all over the world, isn't it, young man?"

[No answer]

"Don't you see it all over the place? Huh?"

Pause.

"Don't you?" The professor leans into the student's face again and whispers, "Is God good?"

[No answer]

"Do you believe in Jesus Christ, son?"

The student's voice betrays him and cracks. "Yes, professor. I do."

The old man shakes his head sadly. "Science says you have five senses you
use to identify and observe the world around you. Have you seen Jesus? "

"No, sir. I've never seen Him."

"Then tell us if you've ever heard your Jesus?"

"No, sir. I have not."

"Have you ever felt your Jesus, tasted your Jesus or smelt your Jesus... in
fact, do you have any sensory perception of your God whatsoever?"

[No answer]

"Answer me, please."

"No, sir, I'm afraid I haven't."

"You're AFRAID... you haven't?"

"No, sir."

"Yet you still believe in him?"

"...yes..."

"That takes FAITH!" The professor smiles sagely at the underling.
"According to the rules of empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol,
science says your God doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son? Where
is your God now?"

[The student doesn't answer]

"Sit down, please."

The Christian sits... Defeated.

Another person in the class raises his hand. "Professor, may I address the class?"

The professor turns and smiles. "Ah, another Christian in the vanguard!
Come, come, young man. Speak some proper wisdom to the gathering."

A Hare Krishna devotee actually sir, but yes, a believer in God, nontheless.

The devotee looks around the room. "Some interesting points you are
making, sir. Now I've got a question for you. Is there such thing as heat?"

"Yes," the professor replies. "There's heat."

"Is there such a thing as cold?"

"Yes, son, there's cold too."

"No, sir, there isn't."

The professor's grin freezes. The room suddenly goes very cold. The second
devotee continues. "You can have lots of heat, even more heat, super-heat, mega-heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat, but we don't have anything called 'cold'. We can go 458 degrees below zero, which is no heat, but we can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold, otherwise we would be able to go colder than 458 -- You see, sir, cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat we can measure in thermal units because heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it."

Silence. A pin drops somewhere in the classroom as if with a crash.

"Is there such a thing as darkness, professor?"

"That's a dumb question, son. What is night if it isn't darkness? What are
you getting at...?"

"So you say there is such a thing as darkness?"

"Yes..."

"You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is not something, it is the absence of
something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing
light, but if you have no light constantly you have nothing and it's called
darkness, isn't it? That's the meaning we use to define the word. In reality, Darkness isn't. If it were, you would be able to make darkness darker and give me a jar of it. Can you... give me a jar of darker darkness, professor?"

Despite himself, the professor smiles at the young effrontery before him.
This will indeed be a good semester. "Would you mind telling us what your
point is, young man?"

"Yes, professor. My point is, your philosophical premise is flawed to start
with and so your conclusion must be in error...."

The professor goes toxic. "Flawed...? How dare you...!""

"Sir, may I explain what I mean?"

The class is all ears.

"Explain... oh, explain..." The professor makes an admirable effort to regain control. Suddenly he is affability itself. He waves his hand to silence the class, for the student to continue.

"You are working on the premise of duality," the devotee explains. "That
for example there is life and then there's death; a good God and a bad God.
You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can
measure. Sir, science cannot even explain a thought. It uses electricity and
magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood them. To view death
as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life, merely the absence of it."

The young man holds up a newspaper he takes from the desk of a neighbour who has been reading it. "Here is one of the most disgusting tabloids this
country hosts, professor. Is there such a thing as immorality?"

"Of course there is, now look..."

"Wrong again, sir. You see, immorality is merely the absence of morality.
Is there such thing as injustice? No. Injustice is the absence of justice.
Is there such a thing as evil?" The devotee pauses. "Isn't evil the absence of good?"

The professor's face has turned an alarming colour. He is so angry he is
temporarily speechless.

The devotee continues. "If there is evil in the world, professor, and we all agree there is, then God, if he exists, must be accomplishing a work through the agency of evil. What is that work, God is accomplishing? The Bible, the Gita and the Koran - all the Holy books tell us it is to see if each one of us will, of our own free will, choose good over evil."

The professor bridles. "As a philosophical scientist, I don't vie this matter as having anything to do with any choice; as a realist, I absolutely do not recognize the concept of God or any other theological factor as being part of the world equation because God is not observable."

"I would have thought that the absence of God's moral code in this world is
probably one of the most observable phenomena going," the devotee replies.

"Newspapers make billions of dollars reporting it every week! Tell me,
professor. Do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?"

"If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, young man, yes,
of course I do", bawlked the professor.

"Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?"

The professor makes a sucking sound with his teeth and gives his student a
silent, stony stare.

"Professor. Since no-one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavour, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you now not a scientist, but a priest teaching faith?"

"I'll overlook your impudence in the light of our philosophical discussion.
Now, have you quite finished?" the professor hisses.

"So you don't accept God's moral code to do what is righteous?"

"I believe in what is - that's science!"

"Ahh! SCIENCE!" the student's face splits into a grin. "Sir, you rightly state that science is the study of observed phenomena. Science too is a premise which is flawed..."

"SCIENCE IS FLAWED..?" the professor splutters.

The class is in uproar.

The devotee remains standing until the commotion has subsided. "To continue the point you were making earlier to the other student, may I give you an example of what I mean?" The professor wisely keeps silent.

The devotee looks around the room. "Is there anyone in the class who has
ever seen the professor's brain?" The class breaks out in laughter.

The devotee points towards his elderly, crumbling tutor. "Is there anyone
here who has ever heard the professor's brain... felt the professor's brain,
touched or smelt the professor's brain?" No one appears to have done so.
The devotee shakes his head sadly. "It appears no-one here has had any
sensory perception of the professor's brain whatsoever. Well, according to
the rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol, science, I DECLARE
that the professor has no brain."

Wouldn't the same reasoning apply to your emotions and your will?

"Our philopsophy is that you, the living being are hidden within that body, adorned with many wonderful qualities, and although I cannot observe it with my/our limited senses, or within the limited parameters which you want to place God within.

"If I want to know your mind or better yet the real you (your mind, emotions, will and even you the spirit soul), all I have to do, if you are willing to be known, is be willing to seek to know you and to spend time with you. "You can know that God exists, .... if you are willing ... Are you willing Professor?"

The class is in chaos.

The devotee sits... Because that is what a chair is for.

Silence Silence Silence Silence Silence Silence Silence
(you can hear it......)

The bell rings.

"Class dismissed," replies the professor. "Time is up!"

~ unknown author

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